Interview of Rachel “Dee Dee” Jeantel by Florida State’s Attorney Bernie de la Rionda.
[This transcript is unofficial. No representations are made as to its accuracy. It was posted
by a commenter at Justice Quest. Net. I have removed the transcriber’s comments.]
BDLR: Uh, OK..could you state your name for the record, Ma’am.
Dee Dee: [Redacted]
BDLR: OK, my name is Bernie de la Rionda. I’m an assistant state attorney. I’m going to get you to raise your right hand, please. Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Dee Dee: So help me God.
BDLR: OK, put your hand down. As I told you, my name is Bernie de la Rionda. I’ve been appointed by Miss Corey, who has been appointed by the governor of the State of Florida to handle this case that I’m going to be asking you questions about. Also to my right is Detective..uh..or Investigator T.C. O’Steen with the State Attorney’s office. We’ve come from Jacksonville, here along with some agents with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, and we are at [redacted] because you have agreed to come here today, is that correct?
Dee Dee: Yes.
BDLR: Has anyone threatened you in any way to get you to make this statement?
Dee Dee: No.
BDLR: Has anybody made you any promises in order to get you to make this statement?
Dee Dee: No.
BDLR: OK..I can tell by looking at you that you appear to be under no medical conditions that would interfere with…
Dee Dee: No…
BDLR: …being able to understand what’s going on, right?
Dee Dee: No.
BDLR: And you don’t appear to be under any kind of drugs or anything, is that correct?
Dee Dee: Nuh…[mumbling]
BDLR: And for the record, today is April the 2nd, 2012, and it’s about 7:05 PM. Uh, what I wanna kinda do is ask you some background questions, and then I also want to ask you some questions about something that happened back on February 26th of this year. And for the record, you knew a person named Trayvon Martin, is that correct?
Dee Dee: Yes.
BDLR: OK…now, you live [Redacted]…
Dee Dee: [Redacted]
BDLR: OK, how long have you lived there?
Dee Dee: [Redacted]
BDLR: Your whole life?
Dee Dee: Hmmm…[mumbling]
BDLR: OK, where did you live before that?
Dee Dee: [Redacted]
BDLR: OK, the reason I am asking you is because I am from Jacksonville, so I want to make sure the record’s clear…that we’re here in uh [redacted] Umm…
Dee Dee: A year or two…or eleven…[mumbling]
BDLR: What?
Dee Dee: Ten years…or 11.
BDLR: I’m sorry, what?
Dee Dee: Eleven…or 10 years
BDLR: OK, where do you go to school?
Dee Dee: [Redacted]
BDLR: And how did you know Trayvon?
Dee Dee: I know him for a long time…we just…we started talking.
BDLR: How did you meet up with him…from school? Or friends? Or…
Dee Dee: By coming by my house…
BDLR: OK…
Dee Dee: …with his best friend.
BDLR: Who was his best friend?
Dee Dee: [Redacted] Yeah.
BDLR: OK, so you’ve known him for how long about? Approximately…
Dee Dee: Kindergarten…?
BDLR: Kindergarten…wow, that long. So he was a good friend of yours…right?
Dee Dee: Yeah, he was alright…
BDLR: OK, and he was a good guy, wasn’t he?
Dee Dee: Yeah…sumpin’…
BDLR: OK, and at…some later…later on…like in the last year or so, did you become closer friends?
Dee Dee: Yes.
BDLR: OK…did you guys ever start dating at all?
Dee Dee: Hmm mmm [unintelligible].
BDLR: But would you guys talk on the phone all the time?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK, what was your telephone number back in February of this year, 2012?
Dee Dee: [Redacted]
BDLR: And is that a cell phone?
Dee Dee: Yes.
BDLR: OK, and is that phone number under your name or under somebody else’s name?
Dee Dee: Now, it should be now under my name.
BDLR: And do you know what the provider is…is it T-Mobile? Or do you know?
Dee Dee: Yeah, T-Mobile…[mumbles]…I think.
BDLR: And did you know when you talked to Trayvon, what number you called him at?
Dee Dee: I don’t…I know the last four digits
BDLR: You don’t remember, or you do?
Dee Dee: I remember the last four…
BDLR: Is that automatically…like memorized in your phone?
Dee Dee: Mmm Hmm [Yes].
BDLR: OK, Alright, and you would communicate with him off and on? It was almost on a daily basis, or how often would you talk on the phone?
Dee Dee: Daily.
BDLR: Daily? You were that close?
Dee Dee: Daily.
BDLR: OK, were you kind of his girlfriend, or just kind of…I don’t mean to get personal, but I’m not going to ask you any more other than that. Were you guys…
Dee Dee: Yeah, we were getting there…
BDLR: OK, you’re getting there. And you knew he had gone up to Sanford, right?
Dee Dee: Yes.
BDLR: OK, and even when he was in Sanford, you still talked to him on the phone?
Dee Dee: Yes.
BDLR: OK. Now uh…by the way, I neglected to ask you. Do you live with yourself, or a family member, your mother, or any other…
Dee Dee: My mother.
BDLR: I’m sorry…
Dee Dee: My mother.
BDLR: OK, alright. I want to focus on that day, February 26, when you know obviously he was unfortunately killed. And I’m sorry to ask you about this…
Dee Dee: [Unintelligible]
BDLR: But did you have conversations with him that day?
Dee Dee: Yes.
BDLR: OK, and do you recall whether the conversations were in the morning, or in the afternoon, or all through the day until the final until the final [The tape sounds like the microphone is being moved or something is being drug across it]. In other words, did you talk to him earlier that day?
Dee Dee: In the morning.
BDLR: OK…alright…
Dee Dee: All day, it seem…
BDLR: OK, you talked to him during the day?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK, at some point did you find out that Trayvon was going to the store?
Dee Dee: Around six, sumpin’….
BDLR: OK, and did he tell you what store he was going to?
Dee Dee: No; he was sayin’ corner store.
BDLR: Did he say why he was going to the store?
Dee Dee: Uh…yes.
BDLR: Why did he say he was going to the store?
Dee Dee: Get his little brother, uh, some food and some drink.
BDLR: OK, and as he was walking to the store, were you conversing with him?
Dee Dee: Yes.
BDLR: OK, you were talking to him.
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: How about when he got to the store? Did he talk to you about being at the store?
Dee Dee: Yes.
BDLR: OK, and did he talk to you once he left the store?
Dee Dee: Yes.
BDLR: And now was this a continuous phone call, or were there times when you would stop and then call each other back?
Dee Dee: Yeah, but the phone was actin’ up.
BDLR: OK, alright, OK, and we’ve got all the phone records that would establish that, so I’m not going to ask you details as to what specific times. But, what I wanted to cover with you is when he left the store, did he mention something about that at that time whether it was raining or not?
Dee Dee: Like, when he come home, or..?
BDLR: Yeah, tell what happened as he’s talking to you when he’s leaving the store…on his way back home.
Dee Dee: When he was leaving the store, he just told me that he bought drinks…and it about to rain.
BDLR: OK, and then what?
Dee Dee: It about to rain..he about to get to…inside a thing. It started raining.
BDLR: It started raining, and did he go somewhere?
Dee Dee: Yeah. He ran to the um…mail thing.
BDLR: Like…I’m sorry…what?
Dee Dee: Like the mail…like a shed…
BDLR: Like a shed…like a mail area…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: Like a covered area…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: Because it was raining?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: So, did he tell you that he was already inside, like the gated place?
Dee Dee: Yeah, he ran in there.
BDLR: OK…
Dee Dee: That’s when the phone hung up…
BDLR: OK, I’m sorry..
Dee Dee: The phone hung up, and I call him back again.
BDLR: OK, and then what happened? What did he tell you?
Dee Dee: He under the shade.
BDLR: OK..
Dee Dee: …the mail area.
BDLR: Alright, OK, and you say shade, like a covered area…
Dee Dee: Yeah…
BDLR: …so he wouldn’t get wet.
Dee Dee: Mmm hmm [Yes].
BDLR: OK, and what else did he …did Trayvon tell you?
Dee Dee: And like…
BDLR: And I know this is difficult for you, but just take your time and tell us what you remember happening.
Dee Dee: A couple minutes later he come and tell me this man is watchin’ him.
BDLR: OK…did he describe the man who was watching him?
Dee Dee: Yeah, he said white.
BDLR: OK, did he say whether the man was standing, sitting…
Dee Dee: In a car.
BDLR: In a car?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: What did he say about the man who was watching him…
Dee Dee: He was on the phone.
BDLR: He was on the phone?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK, and what did Trayvon say after that?
Dee Dee: He was telling me like…like he a man watching him, so he like started walking.
BDLR: He, Trayvon, started walking?
Dee Dee: He goin’ start walking.
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: And then…the phone hung up. And I call him back again. And then, I say ‘What you doin’?’ and he say he walkin’ and he said this man still following him, behind the car. And I’m like…or like, he told me…he tell me..he put his hoodie on, so I like…
BDLR: He, Trayvon, put his hoodie on.
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK…
Dee Dee: Cause, he said it was startin’ a little bit dripping water….
BDLR: Uh huh.
Dee Dee: So he put his hoodie on. So I said, ‘What’s going on?’ He said this man is still watching him. Like in a car…so he about to run from the back. So then I told him, go to his dad house. Run to his Dad house.
BDLR: Go to what?
Dee Dee: Run to his dad house.
BDLR: To his dad’s house?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: So he say he about to run from the back cause its mo’ easier, he said. So, next thing I hear, he gettin’ run. And I can hear that the wind blowin’…(transcriber wrote “for the back” but it is “from the back.”)
BDLR: So you could tell he was running at that time…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK, and then what happened?
Dee Dee: And then…he say he lost him.
BDLR: He lost..like…the man?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: So, was Trayvon at that time…you could tell he was like, out of breath, like excited…
Dee Dee: Yeah. . .
BDLR: …like, like…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: Then…
BDLR: Take your time; I know this is difficult for you
Dee Dee: He lost him; he was breathin’ hard. An…by the sound his voice…voice kinda change…
BDLR: Who? Trayvon?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK, what do you mean by that, his voice changed?
Dee Dee: [unintelligible] I know he was scare.
BDLR: I’m sorry?
Dee Dee: I know he was scare. He…
BDLR: How..how…could …tell…and I know what you’re trying to tell me, but if you could, describe to me how you could tell he was scared.
Dee Dee: Voice was getting kind of low…[unintelligible]…breathin’ har’…
BDLR: So, you could tell he was emotional like somebody who was like in fear?
Dee Dee: Yeah…he say he lost him…
BDLR: OK…he was breathing hard?
Dee Dee: He say he lost him…breathin’ har’, you know. And I like, he goin’…so he say he lost him. And then a couple…and then he say he right by his ass…he ru’, he go’ keep ru’ ’til hi’ dad house.
BDLR: OK, let me make sure I understand that he’s saying that he’s “right by his ass”…meaning the guy is right by Trayvon?
Dee Dee: No, he say he lost the guy…
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: And then he ran from the back…
BDLR: Right.
Dee Dee: He say he lost him.
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: He started walking back again…and I told him ‘Keep runnin’.’
BDLR: So Trayvon said he started walking because he thought he had lost the guy.
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: I say, ‘Keep runnin’.’
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: He say he ain’t goin’ run, cause he say he right by his father house…
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: So, and in a couple minutes…he say the man followin’ him again, behin’ him. And I say, ‘RUN!’ You goin’ to run? He say he not goin’ run cause…I could have known he not going to run, cause he out of breath. and then, he told me, he say this guy getting’ close to him. I told him ‘RUN!’ And then, and then… I tol’ him ‘Keep runnin’.’ He not goin’ run. And then he say…I told him, ‘Why you not runnin’? He say, ‘I’m not go’ run,’ cause he tired, but I know he tired.
BDLR: I’m sorry…Trayvon said he’s not running because…he’s not going to run he said…because you could tell he was tired?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: Well, how could you tell he was tired?
Dee Dee: He was breathin’ hard.
BDLR: OK, real hard?
Dee Dee: Real hard.
BDLR: OK. Could you…and you may not have been able to…could you hear whether it was raining at that time or not?
Dee Dee: It was not raining, cause I hear him OK.
BDLR: OK, and when you’re telling him “Run, Run, Run”, are you yelling at him, or…
Dee Dee: I was not yelling at him…
BDLR: I don’t mean yelling, I mean, but were you like, were you being emphatic like…
Dee Dee: Shouting…shouting at him, yeah.
BDLR: OK..um…and then what happened?
Dee Dee: And then he told me like the guy was getting close..like..and he told me the guy was getting real close to him. The next I hear, “What are you following me for?”
BDLR: OK, so let me make sure I understand this…so, Trayvon tells you the guy’s getting closer to him…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: …and then you hear Trayvon saying something…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: And what do you hear Trayvon saying?
Dee Dee: “Why you followin’ me for?”
BDLR: “Why you following me for?”
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: And then what happened?
Dee Dee: I hear this, ya know, man… it wa’ like a ol’ man…
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: …say, ‘Wha’ you doin’ aroun’ here?’
BDLR: OK, so you could definitely tell another voice that was not Trayvon’s.
Dee Dee: Yeah, yeah…
BDLR: And you heard this other voice say what?
Dee Dee: Yeah: “What are you doin’ aroun’ here?”
BDLR: “What are you doing around here?” OK.
Dee Dee: And I call Trayvon…’Trayvon, wha’s goin’ on, whas goin’ on?’
BDLR: This is you saying that…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: Then..I callin’ him…he didn’t answer.
BDLR: No answer from Trayvon.
Dee Dee: Yeah..and I hear, I hear a sound like “bump.” You cou’ hear that Trayvon bump…somebody bumped Trayvon, ’cause I could hear the grass.
BDLR: OK, so you could hear that there was something going on…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: Like something hitting something?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: You could hear..I could hear the grass thing.
BDLR: Out of the…
Dee Dee: Yeah…
BDLR: …I guess out of the speaker…out of the…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK, and then what happened?
Dee Dee: And then…I was still screaming, I was saying, ‘Trayvon, ‘ ‘Trayvon’…
BDLR: And there was no response?
Dee Dee: Yeah, and next thing I hear…and next thing, the phone just shut off.
BDLR: The phone shut off?
Dee Dee: It just shut off.
BDLR: OK, did you hear any kind of screamings like ‘Help me’ or anything like that?
Dee Dee: No.
BDLR: OK. Did you hear any kind of shot?
Dee Dee: No.
BDLR: OK. When the phone shut off, did you try calling back?
Dee Dee: I try calling back like 3 or 2 times.
BDLR: OK, did you ever get any response?
Dee Dee: No, and [unintelligible]…
BDLR: OK, so the last thing you heard was some kind of noise, like something hitting somebody?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK, and uh…when you heard that noise…something hitting somebody…you didn’t…did you hear the man say anything, or did you hear Trayvon say anything?
Dee Dee: I can hear a little bit…
BDLR: OK, what could you hear?
Dee Dee: I could just hear like…like, it’s like…the headphone…cause the headphones, he might got off. But I can still hear a little bit…like….
BDLR: OK, what could you hear?
Dee Dee: Like a little ‘get off’ some stuff…
BDLR: You heard ‘get off’?
Dee Dee: Like a little ‘Get off’ [unintelligible]…
BDLR: Could you tell who was saying that?
Dee Dee: I couldn’ know Trayvon.
BDLR: I’m sorry.
Dee Dee: I couldn’t hear Trayvon…Trayvon.
BDLR: OK, let me make sure I understand…you could hear Trayvon saying that?
Dee Dee: Yeah. That’s why I was calling his name.
BDLR: And he was saying what now?
Dee Dee: Like “get off.”
BDLR: “Get off?” Is that clear that you were hearing that, or you think you heard that?
Dee Dee: Yeah, I could hear it a little bit…”get off…get off,” then the phone just hung up.
BDLR: OK, alright, now, uh…before all this started, when it…earlier in the day, had Trayvon been talking to you, right? So you recognized his voice, right?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: And you heard him on prior occasions, so it was crystal clear it was Trayvon talking to you, right?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: The other voice of the other person you heard, you had never heard before?
Dee Dee: No.
BDLR: OK. Could you tell it was a man versus a woman? The other voice.
Dee Dee: I thought it was a man.
BDLR: You thought it was a man.
Dee Dee: It is a man, ’cause it had a deep voice.
BDLR: OK. And could you tell the man whether his voice was real loud… screaming at Trayvon, or was it just a normal conversation like you and I are having? When you said Trayvon said, ‘What are you following me’..or something, whatever…and the guy replied something, ‘What are you doing here?’ Was it a normal conversation, or could you tell the man was like loud?
Dee Dee: Kinda angry.
BDLR: Angry?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: Why do you say kind of angry?
Dee Dee: Cause he said it like so deep… ‘What are you doin’ ’round here?’
BDLR: But you could clearly hear that…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK…alright. Um….
Dee Dee: And you could hear he was tired too.
BDLR: Who was tired?
Dee Dee: The old man.
BDLR: How could you tell that?
Dee Dee: He was like, ‘What are you doing ’round here?’ He breathin’ ‘What you doin’ ’round here?’
BDLR: OK, in was a louder…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK, let me go back a second, when you said Trayvon told you the guy was in some kind of car.
Dee Dee: Yeah…on the phone.
BDLR: On the phone. Did Trayvon ever expand on that? Did he ever say something else about that , now he’s out like that…like, uh…whether the guy had gotten out of the car? Did he ever describe, “Yeah, the guy, now he’s out of the car, he’s chasing me.” I know you said the guy, he said the guy was following him. But did he ever say the guy got out of the car?
Dee Dee: You want that too?
BDLR: I want to know the truth whether…did he say that or not? If he didn’t say that, that’s fine. I mean, I don’t, I don’t need to know….
Dee Dee: Like, when he like walking.
BDLR: I know Trayvon is running, right? Or walking…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: My question is, did Trayvon ever describe to you, ‘Hey, you know like how if I see a football game, I say yeah, the guy is running fast…or you know, the guy ran to the left…did he ever…
Dee Dee: When he was at the…um…the mail thing
BDLR: Yeah.
Dee Dee: The man was on the phone.
BDLR: Alright.
Dee Dee: That’s what he was telling me.
BDLR: I’m sorry…what, what?
Dee Dee: He was telling me the man was on the phone. He put his hoodie on.
BDLR: Right.
Dee Dee: So, the man was still in the car, then Trayvon started walking, and then he said…I think the man got off by some reason…cause he said…
BDLR: That’s what you believe?
Dee Dee: Yeah…cause he said the man was still following him.
BDLR: OK, so he didn’t say like the man got out…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: You just believe that…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: …but Trayvon didn’t tell you the man got out…
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK. Alright. Uh, did Trayvon ever say he hit the guy?
Dee Dee: No.
BDLR: Did he ever say he was going to go hit the guy?
Dee Dee: No.
BDLR: Did Trayvon ever say, ‘The guy’s coming at me…he’s going to hit me?”
Dee Dee: …yeah…you could say that.
BDLR: Now I don’t want you to guess. Did he ever say that?
Dee Dee: How he said it? He did say…
BDLR: No, I want…do you understand? Did he say that or not? If he didn’t say it, that’s alright…I, I…
Dee Dee: He got…the man got…
BDLR: Do you understand, I’m not trying to get you to say anything…
Dee Dee: He got problems…like he crazy.
BDLR: Trayvon told you that…
Dee Dee: Yeah, the man looking crazy.
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: And look at him crazy.
BDLR: When did Trayvon tell you that?
Dee Dee: When he was walking.
BDLR: OK, but you didn’t mention that earlier. That’s why I ask you that.
Dee Dee: Yeah…walking home…
BDLR: OK.
Dee Dee: …to that house.
BDLR: Right…
Dee Dee: And right before he say he’s going to run.
BDLR: And he’s saying the guy looks what?
Dee Dee: Crazy…
BDLR: And did you say “what do you mean…”
Dee Dee: …and creepy.
BDLR: And did you say, “What do you mean by that?”
Dee Dee: I said….because he said this dude is like watching him…like watch…
BDLR: OK, so that’s what he meant, the guy keeps watching him.
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK, OK. Alright. Now you previously, you were called by Mr. Crump, Mr. Benjamin Crump that was here earlier, and some attorneys called you up, right?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: You remember talking to them on the phone?
Dee Dee: Yes.
BDLR: And did you attempt as best you could to tell them the truth too…about what happened? Do you remember talking to them at all?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK, did they make you any promises or trick you in any way?
Dee Dee: No.
BDLR: OK. I’m not saying that they did. I’m just making sure the records’ clear on that….Um…you obviously found out about what happened to Trayvon, right? And at some point you ended up knowing that he was killed, right?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: Were you able to go to the funeral or to the wake?
Dee Dee: I was goin’ to go, but…
BDLR: OK, what happened?
Dee Dee: I didn’ feel good.
BDLR: OK, did you end up going to the hospital or somewhere?
Dee Dee: Mmmm…Yeah, I had high blood pressure.
BDLR: Again, I’m sorry to have to ask you this. Um…did..when this was going on…I’m talking about that day, February 26, did Trayvon send you any text messages?
Dee Dee: I..one…like…
BDLR: You know, like, ‘I’m going to the store, or did he ever text you and say, like, this guy’s following me, or did he just tell you that?
Dee Dee: He just tell me.
BDLR: OK, then he never texted you that..this all that you’ve told me.
Dee Dee: Mmm…mmm [No].
BDLR: Did you ever text him….during this time?
Dee Dee: Like when the phone just hung up?
BDLR: Yeah.
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: OK, but prior to that did you text him at all in terms of communicating what you’ve told me here?
Dee Dee: Mmm-mmm…[No]…actual…
BDLR: Do you understand what I’m saying?
Dee Dee: Like…
BDLR: what I’m asking you..while this was going on, let’s say when he left the store, did you
text him? You were talking to him the whole time, right?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: Was he texting you at all?
Dee Dee: Mmm-mmm [No].
BDLR: OK. I’m just saying…people text these days. I just want to know if he texted you…and if by chance…you had a text still on your phone.
Dee Dee: Mmm-mmm [No].
BDLR: You don’t?
Dee Dee: Mmm-mmm…
BDLR: OK, is that a “No.”
Dee Dee: No.
BDLR: OK, thank you. Um…I think I already asked you, but let me make sure…he did tell you what he was at the store…the store where he had gotten candy or something, and you said iced tea, right?
Dee Dee: Yes.
BDLR: OK, alright. earlier that day, when he was talking, he being Trayvon, was he talking about his mom at all?
Dee Dee: Like, what you mean? When he went to the store?
BDLR: Was he talking about his family earlier that day, talking about his mom
Dee Dee: Yeah, and he told me he ready to go home and watch…finish watching the game.
BDLR: The game?
Dee Dee: Yeah, he left his little brother, so he trying to rush and…
BDLR: Rushing to go back home and watch the game?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: Did you know what he was talking about when he was talking about a game?
Dee Dee: Yeah…he talking..
BDLR: What was he talking about?
Dee Dee: Oh, I think the…basket, basket…basketball…
BDLR: Basketball?
Dee Dee: Yeah.
BDLR: I think that was like the All-Star Game?
Dee Dee: Yeah. That one. I didn’t really care, but…
BDLR: If you could describe Trayvon, how would you describe him?
Dee Dee: Uh, funny…
BDLR: Is that it?
Dee Dee: A Momma boy.
BDLR: Huh?
Dee Dee: A Momma boy.
BDLR: OK, a Momma’s boy. OK…OK…
Dee Dee: A baby.
BDLR: A baby? OK. How else would you describe him? Sheltered in other words? You mean, like a momma’s boy?
Dee Dee: Yeah, like I said, a Momma boy.
BDLR: OK…OK…
Dee Dee: He love his family. He love his family.
BDLR: OK…
Dee Dee: Love to play on, love to ride his bike.
BDLR: What kind of bike did he have?
Dee Dee: I don’t know. I din’ pay attention his bike.
BDLR: Alright, listen, I know this has been very hard for you. But I do appreciate you taking the time to talk to me today, and obviously you know we record all this, because we’ve had a recorder right in front of you. But I do thank you from the bottom of my heart that you’ve come forward, and you’ve agreed to give this statement today. OK? I know this is very hard I can tell by looking at you, that you’re very emotional about this. It’s very understandable…
Dee Dee: ["uh-huh" sound].
BDLR: …because you cared about him. But all we’re trying to do right now is seek the truth here. That’s why I’m taking this statement.
Dee Dee: I got guilt.
BDLR: Huh?
Dee Dee: I got guilt.
BDLR: You’ve got guilt?
Dee Dee: Mmm-hmm [Yes].
BDLR: Why do you feel guilt?
Dee Dee: Real guilty.
BDLR: Huh?
Dee Dee: Real guilty.
BDLR: Why do you feel real guilty?
Dee Dee: Real guilty.
BDLR: Because you were talking onto the phone and you couldn’t do anything about it?
Dee Dee: I ain’t know about it.
BDLR: Huh?
Dee Dee: I ain’t know about it.
BDLR: You didn’t know what had happened to him?
Dee Dee: Nuh…
BDLR: You’re saying, right? In terms of you were on the phone…
Dee Dee: ‘Cuz I know him.
BDLR: OK. Alright.
Dee Dee: [Unintelligible]
BDLR: OK…
Dee Dee: He would never fight, that’s the problem.
BDLR: He was not one of those people?
Dee Dee: Hmm-mmm [No].
BDLR: OK…
Dee Dee: He would never fight.
BDLR: OK. Thank you very much.